hmm honsetly ,the polygon tools are simply better in XSI ,some really some thing but big effect.. what i really need is to be able to set hot keys to Mjpolytools ,that will make thing alot faster other then modeling ,i love the rigging ,animation ,paintFx, the hyper shader is nearly family for the render tree in xsi.. they are alot a like, and rendering ,with GI Joe i love it and MR is same in both hehe.. the UI are both great in both apps.. all in all ,i cant say maya kicks xsi or other way around ,both are plenty good ,i started maya as a -must- for a project with a friend (the animation of the toy-plane.. ) but now i am pretty pleased.. i think the major plus i would give maya is whole rigging and animation ,and XSI i would say the whole poly world and yea its a su but its russian not german and yea it does look a lot like the eagle only the eagle has his "air takers" in the front like there stuck ,while the su has it from under the wing.. imo the su looks cooler but tomcat rules as everyone knows best aeroplane ever! thanks.