Blimey an update!! I actually rejected the final image for the latest Outlaws page as I thought the backdrop was just awful. Ive basically decided to go the matte painting route and use projection cameras instead of farting about with uv textures that at the end of the day regardless of their rez wont stand up to close up scrutiny as oppsed to as projection. the new model backdrop, with lower rez geo too. This will get rendered without a texture, bought into ps, painted and then reprojected via a projection camera in the same position. cheers Jay