listen. a vertex is a vertex man. you can claim all you want, but go for a mathmatics degree and see if you pass thinking that a control vertex is not a vertex. This is Nurbs.. a mathmaticaly calculated object, just saying that a maya menu doesnt have it doesnt make it not exist or change its definition. you can make these non substancial claims all you want, but i brought definition. If you can't dispose my statements, that ok. No ones perfect LOL. ADL pulls strong argument but, definatly in my favor. 3 or more verticies not only define a planer triangle, but are the minimum number of verticies to define a curve LOL...

This is becoming a really interesting post...

Come on dont give up now. Mwaa haha hahah haha