Originally posted by pbman THIS MAY SOUND STUPID BUT WHATS THE DIFF BETWENN FACES AND TRIS? sorry bout the capp didnt relise and cant be bothered to re type So you type a longer explaination than the fix itself? Triangles are simply 3-side geometric figures where faces can have any conceivable amount of sides. Games generally use triangles though some are starting to warm up to the notion of Quads. P.S. -- I use 6.0 and I have triangle count in my HUD -- so its 6.0, not 6.5