Shush Nem (though if that comments based upon your usage with the max<->mental ray connection then you have a point - if you want to see how damn easy it is to get good results from maya 4.5/mental ray 1.5 take a look at the vids halfway down the page https://www.aliaswavefront.com/en/pro...entalray.shtml

This is incredible news... also means that in the next maya release subd's are going to be working with mental ray and also IPR will be able to use it.. oh damn its like a premature christmas.
So lets see.. maya complete now has subd's and mental ray, and can be had for under £1,700.
GO A|W!!!!