thanks for the suggestions. I may attempt to learn "real" web design on the next iteration of the site. My site's old design was plain old html, just like this current one, and it did me just fine for 5 years, so I'm not too concerned with frames or css or whatnot just now. Sure, having it would help with making the site's code look clean, but frankly, that's not my main concern. Not yet, anyway.