to be fair mike this challenage was alsome. I could find nothing wrong with it. Alot of different entries, a nice time lenth, a good prize and some stunning work was made. My personal problems stopped me from finnishing my model to the point where I`m happy with it (I might take arron up on his advice about posting an earlyer verson of it). i have said many times about the lack of ad`s for these challenages, but I also think a noob section is needed as alot of pepole here are new to maya here