Olorin Yeah sure, check out www.freedom-of-teach.com I think thats right. Im not sure Tariq Merza is on there anymore but I think the dvd is available from 3d total too https://shop.3dtotal.com/product_info...s6qjv17shgqt63 Also the Jeff Unay thing is available from Autodesk (should be) but there was a book version called Hypereal character modelling. Bay Raitt doesnt have a dvd but he has a site called Spiraloid.com which is kind of like a place for digging really...seek and you will find https://cube.phlatt.net/forums/spiraloid/index.php cheers J.