right - so... 'pCylinder1' is the actual 'thing'; 'pCylinderShape1' is how the 'thing' is shaped, sized etc... now, if I change the name to 'tube' - I get 'tube' & 'tubeShape', but there's still 'polyCylinder' under inputs..? also what confuses things (or me at least) is there doesn't appear to be much logic in naming conventions - there's pCylinder1, then pCylinderShape1 (shouldn't that be pCylinder1Shape) and then as mentioned above - polyCylinder1 - (why poly and not p) ?