Hi Mayaniac If you take a look at page 9, then somewhere in the middle of that page you will find your needs satisfied " saberwise" I just started blocking out the cloth texture of the garment, it took me forever since spotlight kept crashing on me, in the end I loaded a couple of tetures in as alpha's en used the dragrect brush to get in the details, which in the end worked out just fine especially since I finally saw what I was doing ( with spotlight you don't actually see what you are painting ). The stupid border around his neck cost me around 30 minutes but it was well worth it since it adds a certain realism to the cloth...and to the character. It's still in blocking out stage, but I like it already, I will keep the detail of the clothgarment somewhat finer, since I will be planning to make the clothpattern of the robe/cape a bit coarser adding a little contrast between the two. Anywho...hope you like it