yeah but most movies start out as novels or books, people are just too lazy to read books these days they want to be entertained not entertain themselves (sorry everyone not ALL ppl) but i do see where your coming from on the size side of things, my music video project im doing- the rendering times are so painfull, even on my new HT computer. A 10 seconds clip with layers, can take an hour sometimes - raytracing is the killer thou, right up to 3 hours! but it is what strives us i suppose! had a quick scan through the new section, looks good mate especially the dusty planet i've got to say it... sleep less - work more, you have a following to tend laters mate - did ya fix that rogue link?