thanks danny, i am probably going to buy some points tonight so i will check that one out . I actually knew about the snapshot.. thats what i meant (heh). Ok well i am trying to find a texture within the program that can go on nicely so that i dont have to go to too much trouble just to make gold bracelet type things. ANyone have a suggestion? Im very bad with textures. I need to get a bracelet type gold ring, so i have the object, yet i dont know how to make the texture or what settings to apply. Can anyone lead me to a tutorial, other than that UV one for now? Thanks