Thanks Strarup, I will have a look on the net now for that "VirtualDub" see if I can get a demo or something. I did manage to get my animation working in AEffects but couldn't work out how to apply 'effects' to it - I think I may have to create a new layer or something, not had too much time on Maya since before Christmas - am hoping to get more time soon... But VirtualDub sounds great for rendering it out as is.. will go look now. Regards Scraggy