Thanks Rick. Giger meets Danzig ?? whats that ? I'll have a look if I can get a copy of what ever it is. Yes. I did the sketch on the girl. You will be able to find more indeapth work on her on the SimplyPhotoshop thread listed above. I don't have much there ATM but I will get back around to more work on her also.. just getting the mesh and UV's cleaned up on the devil hear is a big chunk of time.