hi gamester, - i created the lightsaber using a ep curve (set to linear) then in the dynamics menu select "emit from object =>optionbox"renamed the emitter to saber set the emitterrate to 8000 , set the particle to multipoint and then created a ramp for the opacity and the color ,set conserve to .5 and created a simple script for the lifespan for that vibrating look. - yes i wanted to make the clothes; first i made one in polygons converted to cloth then after several adjustements i came to figure out that the resolution wasn't high enough and couldn't change this. so i went to making panels out of curves i used an ep curve set to linear for this and everytime i wanted to convert it to panel it says need a close curve to perform action or something like that. But if i use a ready made curve circle or square from the menu and convert it it goes without any problems. so if anyone knows what's happening here .....