I somewhat know how to do tables...just need to reteach myself(won't be too hard) but how do I get it so my background appears the same, but the tables are in the same spots I have plotted for my gallery thumbnails and news etc??? I just dont know how to position the things Orrr....do I just make an invisible(no border) table going all the way across.....and just measure the width of outside border and gallery space etc??? DSA