Originally posted by GecT Tweety I was looking at the W.i.p and saw the amount of detail that went into just his hook hand thingy (hopefully I will get to see another render of it ) This one didn't do the model justice. Could not agree with you more. Life just gave me no time and I wanted something to show for my efforts. My plan is to make a small animation with the guy - walking up a fallen tree or something in the rain - keeping to the horror theam.