Originally posted by RickStefani Looks like you are well low of that right now. What is the count? I would add some around the face. After adding some detail to the torso and hands, I have about 3100 tri-polys. But that is with 500 poly hands Think I'm going to remove some polys from my now, smoother hand Btw, could you give me some good tips on how I should improve the face. I could put up some better screenshots for you if you like.