Halfloaf: Yeah thats the sketch, I just need to put it on my other site daverave: Carp mate, though Ive had two barbel this season too actually, only around 6 pounders but nice all the same. Went last weekend in the rain and cold, had a 2 pound bream for my efforts, I was not a happy chappy though, the carp were teasing all day!! CTBRAM: thanks man you too. Gect: Thank you, it's been going well. LOL yeah it will get finished, all my stuff does. BenHobden: Thanks mate, yeah definately a bit of ZB will be thrown in. Glad you've been working at it.... cheers for now Jay