gazz: hmmm.....poor discreet :-( i guess rich autodesk wasnt able to help :-( max is still pretty solid in the games bussiness...it wont die that easily :-)....for me....all softwares are worth learning :-) ecept lw.....its the devil....repat lw's logo 3 times and u get 666!!! tolerate: very true :-) i find xsi's built in compositing suite very practical :-) havent learned or even started to learn xsi....but it looks promising :-)