Hey Falott When I say waiting, its just a time thing right now cos of head models and rigs etc, but Im always seeing what the next guy does or doesnt do that way I know what to look for and not what to do and cool subtleties etc. As for the reference my wife always helps me out if Im stuck, she understands how important my work is and the need for reference. I have a full house of reference for most stuff. I did a female body a while ago and used that as a template for my girl character for my project, I use the legs body etc for base meshes for clothing so it fits pretty well and the geometry has the same flow for the rig pretty much too. Look forward to more of your updates Kind regards _J