I will do that, thanks Pony. - But any of you know why I got into this mess? like is there some rule I should follow, but am not doing? - being self/web taught I have missed very basic stuff before.. So I keep wondering if i'm doing a no-no.. Cheers dirak - That will be ok because all the inside faces have to be deleted anyway, so I will have a go at that after getting rid of all those other faces. Thanks a lot guy's Scraggy