Originally posted by danotronXX I always use the brushes when it comes to plants and trees. does xfrog give more control or ease with this kind of stuff. I'm always open minded to new plugins. The learning curve of this plug-in is fairly simple. I wouldn't consider myself as a "modeler", the website comes with some Maya tutorials for free and it has a yahoo group for creative and technical support, so I manage to create some pretty decent looking plants and vines. It got a high rating over at Creative Cow but the customer service is pretty lousy. Check it out!