dilbert, when u say modified sphere, how do u mod urs. can u take a screen shot of ur model with the sphere and plane so I can see cause I have my sphere cover everything but dome ppl have it open at the top so the image based lighting can take more effect. also can u help me with paint shaders. I used a fractal displacement map to get speckles in my paint but it still looks a little off. what do u do with ur shaders and how do u get that nice alloy look