You can use the isolate select function, but it's a little wierd with polys>>>>( only works with faces) select the faces around the area you want to work on. go to Show>Isolateselect> view selected. (I usually tear off that little window so I can toggle it) Once you have the faces isolated, you can change to vertexes or edges with the Funct keys It's a lot easier with nurbs> just isolate select the vertices Joe