Thanks for the info David. No problem really anyway, just convenience. I can use google chrome instead. Good to be back btw... been working... a lot! lol. Time is a precious commodity. Side note... love the new tut on "real world" stuff. How about an alternate future tut on a "fantasy world"? kinda like dark soulsish, zelda-like, dragonlance stuff. (assets, landscapes, etc..) See ya mate...