Fantastic work mate. I really like the added details you have added to the model, WHERE CAN I BUY YOUR TUTORIAL DISKS lol i am have just got to the point of the UV mapping in the tutorial, biggest problem i am having at the moment is getting the smoothing right on the body, Jay said he didnt want to use subdiv on the model so i am trying not to although most of the other stuff i have done have all been subdic'd (option 3 on kb in 2009) thanks Mithandra