hey guys, sorry there hasnt been much updates... just started school again and trying to squeeze in the time for this. heres a couple of updates, also started on the ears... first time really doing them without any guidence of a tutorial but yeah hopefully it'll work out in the end, @ arran - ey man, glad to be back ... i missed it lol @ jay - thanks man, yeah im not adding anymore geo now, and trying to get the general shape and that now... also yeah didnt realise i had that extra line there, all gone now. @ jim - I hope i am, this is a hard tree though thanks also,