younglion - thanks, yeah i also agree with the handle ... looks too punie

starjsjswars - ambient occlusion render for shader as petrol mentioned

petrol - cheers man, yeah i only hit it up to 64 sample or higher if its the final product etc, though for now i like it at 16 sample because of that sketchy feel :p

acid - "ive never seen a model by you that isnt mostly cylinders" hahaha good one :p

thanks for the comments guys... i will work on the minigun tonight after the simpsons finish :p

marlon J