Thanks Jay,

Nilla is the instructor on this one. Yeh after finally getting the HDR glass one close I am interested in lighting a lot now...its actually very interesting and I have now a much better respect on how important lighting can be. After seeing examples of normal model presentation and what they SHOULD be doing with lighting I am definitely hooked on this. LOL I even nearly had a bingle in the tunnel in Perth whilst driving home...was too busy looking how light was reflecting and casting shadows as I was driving through. Even just looking at my various glass render saves I can see what a difference lights and shadows etc can make. Im going to try really hard on this one...watch this space

cheers bullet