Whoooaaaa !!! Just found exactly what I needed, and it's all on the Alias site.... 3D-101 ......!!!!!! I picked Polygons from the dropdown and there are all these cool little Flash vid's explaining each tool, I probably would have seen it earlier, but have NEVER been able to find my way around their site properly even before the change. I got it bookmarked now... I wrote this JIC someone else needs tut's on Poly's and doesn't know they are there.... "Why do we have to wear these ridiculous ties"?