I knew I made an impression Thanks for the reply David, good to know I can keep 2012 as I've got it tweaked to my liking and there's no bugs with it ..... Checked out Marvelous Designer, agree it's too much for what I need and do Will go have a look at meshlab and snatch it up for this. Got my new wood shop all set up and equipped, still want to build that computer table, just have to tear myself away from the lathe and the bowls/platters/earrings/bottle stoppers ........ LOL Got an "award" for one of my turnings, so kinda hard to quit now Using Maya to create some vessels/bowls, gonna be back with questions about projecting images/textures, and more UV mapping soon