to be honest....(i know a lot of maya fanataics will kill me for this)...maya's renderer does suck(w/o mr)....i think alias has been overlooking on this for too long.....what i would like to see is good exposure control,good gi,good light tracer like thing,good caustics and more aaliasing filters.....i hope the guys at alias read this hohoho :-) this is the only reason thats holding me back from purchasing maya and y i still use max for pretty much everything i was paid to do :-)