Thanks Steve, yeah, I thought that, but then I find myself tweaking the verts and trying to get everything lined up right....! Can't seem to stop myself! I guess it's not a bad habit to get into, and maybe I can use him for something else later on down the line too, keep thinking of having him animated, leaping about and attacking people. We'll see, should first probably try and concentrate on the main reason I'm doing it really, sculpting! lol!