Murambi Absolutely. I still use Maya 2008 with custom plugins, I didnt even worry with 2009 0r 2010 and this next version will be overlooked too, unless theres a huge leap in the software development next time round and something in there to make me wanna buy it, I'll be staying put and my 2K will be spent on something more practical like a family holiday or a party with friends and hookers LOL, or even more fishing gear for the coming season!! Steve: cool mate np cheers Jay