Ok will post the 1 min animation in 2 weeks time as I have just finished some other shots that were needed which are now rendering. For the bird the wings are all set up and rigged as I got a freelancer to assist with this and he kindly captured the whole process from start to finish so I will hopefully have a good understanding of the ins and outs of it. Also got mb feather for xsi and am going to use this when I get back in the office to set up the body and smaller wing feathers. In the mean time I started working on a chinook. Here are some wires and what not so far.