hey Rage I downloaded it yesterday, very cool, clear concise and informative. I was sayin to David that even though I know how to render all this sort of stuff, its nice to see somebody do it in a production style using comp software. Ive just got Fusion so Im going to be getting more into using my comps that way instead of PS all the time as theres more control great tute mate...thanks now go and download my TUTE on Mirroring Blendshapes LOL Jay