Thank you!!! you are glorious!! im going to try it later tonite why is it BAD to render it into a .avi?? Also i have Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects 6.0 can I use that and if so how... i've gotten the programs.. haven't found good tutorials on how to use them yet though.. ??? hehe and one more question... when i use Maya Software for my other animations instead of Mental Ray at times.. i should also not render my other animations into .avi format?? and instead follow these exact same steps??? that you gave me?? Thanks Again.. I should start posting and reading this forum.. I am learning so much already :bow: