Originally posted by Chirone looks like you're getting somewhere, which is good! when you do the wireframe screen shots do wireframe on shaded (the menu is pointed out in GecT's last picture) hit 5 or 6 to get one of the shaded modes and the wireframe will appear on the model and be shaded Thx but when i did it the render shot came out just clear, i will try it again on my next update.