Originally posted by Chirone Darnellrbts, i hope i didn't sound insulting when i asked that i only asked because i wasn't sure if that was your actual wireframe or not, because the wires on the back frame don't seem to match the frame itself i'm guessing that you've deleted some edge loops but not their verticies i have to agree with GecT on the depth of the seat too, maybe bring in the front of it in more or raise the back of the chair so that they look more proportional Gect, do. you. sound. like. a. robot. after. using. speech. recognition. ? Nope it wasnt insulting. Kinda funny though i really went and look at all the settings to make sure i didnt have a toon shade on :lmao: