Thank ya t1ck135 . Eldwick i'm using a program called Modo, from Luxology. It's a real good poly/subd modelling tool, although i've only had it for about a month or so. You should check it out.
Anyway, a little progress on the body and arms, hands are a little rough and still need some work, but i'll move on to the rest for now.

https://actechcore.tripod.com/JAupperbodyhands.txt