Thanks, mtmckinley. I remember doing the Dragon's head with 3pts in some areas. Later, I posted the begining stages of my own model and someone said you gotta avoid the 3's and 5's. I took them literally. Way too literally. I redid my entire model and I don't have any to my knowledge, however it was a major pain. Now, I know that I can afford some in moderation...what a relief. Thanks again, Dan