Thanks guys. Im working on refining the nose right now, hence the amount of polys around that area. Im sure I'll be able to cut down abit. Same for the lip/chin area. Once I get the basic shape of it, Im sure I'll be able to cut down on the poly count abit. And Im not worried about how long it'll take me. I just want it to look decent for a first time head model. daverave - Can you be abit more specific about what your talking about? The edge flow above the nostral?