well small update not much since this is the last weekend of freedom i have since i start school again on monday and tmorrow is mothers day. BTW....was trying to play around with mental ray and I keep getting this error 'Error: (Mayatomr.Geometry) : polyToSubdShape1, non-quadrilateral face in subdivision surface base mesh not supported, ignored // " can any one help me with that. I trued to run the poly cleanup before turning into a subdiv....and thats what happens. anyway here is the update.