hey donnie, just thought, not sure if i got back to you on this occlusion test. not had alot of spare time,and been trying to progress on my dragon scene with what time i have had.its getting to the point where ive spent so much time looking at it (my scene),its really starting to annoy me.,want to move on. but will try and keep this occlusion in mind. am thinking i need to work more on my lighting and rendering in whatever i do next. the enterprise is looking really cool.very professional