Hey someguy, thx for your reply. Indeed sometimes it is over the limit of to perfect models. My client did like the model so i assume it`s all ok. Realism depends on the final output, an area like Second Life you can get away with it. Not in next gen gaming or film. i have updated the image, smaller fins and edited the head. Leonlabyk there is a tutorial i made here https://www.aikoworld.com/blog/category/tutorials/ Only that the tutorial is in Flemish but my client has requested a translation to english, so i`m awaiting for the final order to be placed. So keep an eye in my blog there are weekly entries of info. @elephantinc thx for your comments.