i have to agree the edges are very hard at the moment thats prob because im still tweaking so it will be a bit softer but they are very hard anyway. I was toying with the idea of a hemi cuda because it is one of my all time favourite cars.i just gotta first finish modeling the basic stuff first before i think of doin anythin special.it is my first project to go well so i am taking my time. I am going to model some treads on the tyres but that will come in time. i am a relative newbie so i got to work it out as i go.lol. thanks for the constructive crits very helpful.