:p :p did you hear that ? it's me... slapping myself in the face ! OK boyz and galz - I must ask the programmers of Maya to forgive me for I have sinned Actually for I haven't SEEN - The problem I was trying to solve is easily resolved by setting the MAX SUBDIVISON DENSITY in the offset Curve Options box. BUT YOU ALREADY KNEW THAT - DIDN'T YOU ? It works (at least for now). Mike McKinley was right - and I knew it - I just couldn't see how. Slap...Slap...Slap.... NIR