Thanks mate,
yeh it was a bit hard to determine....some are hard some other refs are smooth....so I went for the easy option. The only mistake I mad was the shape at the upper...it should have been a little more expanded.
Still gives the noobs something to do and emulate...not too haerd a thing really..
cheers bullet
bullet1968
"A Darkness at Sethanon", a book I aspire to model some of the charcters and scenes