Thanks a lot hidalgo, its like a conversation between you and me . Lol, yea i have learned how to make stuff load faster over the years. BTW.. up to the point you have seen, has been mostly done with dreamweaver.. I can code all of it though, just im sorry... theres no point in me doing it when i can save hours doing it through dw. After this point though i will be adding all the info with notepad, and the code. So in a way, yes its done with software, but do i need it? Nah.. tables if you can visualise it are quite easy to write.. just you cant forget what you have and stuff . I will use notepad because it wont screw it up after this point. Thanks again for the reply.